must be Russian

The Principality of Kyiv would like a word.

In the 14th century, the city was known as Киевъ (Kiev) in Old East Slavic and Church Slavonic.

Latin sources used variations like Kiovia or Kiow.

The modern spelling “Kyiv” comes from Ukrainian, standardized in the 20th century and promoted internationally in the 21st.

ah never looked at it this way! waiter waiter, 1M more casualties please!

Too much Russian propaganda in China

引用自 Rokatanskii：

In the 14th century, the city was known as Киевъ (Kiev) in Old East Slavic and Church Slavonic.

Latin sources used variations like Kiovia or Kiow.

The modern spelling “Kyiv” comes from Ukrainian, standardized in the 20th century and promoted internationally in the 21st.

Nobody bat an eye when Joseon was called Korea in EU4 and that isn't just a spelling thing.

Saying “Kyiv Rus’” is like calling the Roman Empire “Italian Rome”

引用自 parent child bowl：

Nobody bat an eye when Joseon was called Korea in EU4 and that isn't just a spelling thing.

It’s a historical flattening. Calling it 'Korea' imposes a modern national label on a pre-modern society, and that’s a problem. It’s not just inaccurate—it’s a missed opportunity to educate and immerse. That’s why we NEED to talk about it. Historical games should challenge us, not comfort us with familiar names.

It's Paradox. Of course they adopt the Most Recent Update On Approved History when they can. First time?

at least they don't have KIROV in EU5 like they do in CK3

VERY GOOD COMMENT COMRADE. YOU HAVE BEEN AWARDED 1 LADA FOR YOUR LOYALTY TO MOTHER RUSSIA.

Everybody on here that is insulting me personally based on presupposed xenophobic discrimination is completely ignoring the fact that Paradox essentially bent the fabric of history to create a politically correct interpretation of a country that essentially has never existed.

"Kyiv" was adopted as a political standard midst the erection of the modern Ukrainian state. If there were a depiction of Ukraine in the year 2025, I would have no problem with the city being referred to as Kyiv.

I am neither Russian, nor Ukrainian, or even Chinese of that matter. Frankly, I see very little difference between the Russians and Ukrainians as individuals. I am a student of history, and I am disappointed with petty politics getting in the epistemic formula that makes Paradox games so great.

引用自 Sten：

must be Russian

No, just someone who knows real history.

"Kyiv" is a Ukrainian name, and neither Ukraine nor the Ukrainian language even existed in the 14th century when this game begins. In actual history, the city hasn't been called "Kyiv" until 1991, when Ukraine became independent after collapse of the Soviet Union.

So yes, there should be an event that changes the toponymic in 1991 (or whenever the USSR collapses in the game's timeline), but not earlier.

Sounds like how people used to say Beijing as Peking in english. It's not that big of a deal.

Im tired of pushing Russia like a garbage. It is great country and nation with great science, culture and art , stop depicting Russia by modern politics only.
It has really great history and deserve its place in the East.
Im also tired by seeing "PLEASE PLEASE BRING UKRAINIAN LANGUAGE" across many games forums, its just sick. You are not only one chosen nation.