I mean there is still the 4x stuff like el1 had. If you enjoyed EL1 despite skipping the combat then its worth a shot but if you still didnt like it then its fine to skip. The auto resolve is not perfect but pretty good though there are some forts that you cant auto resolve.

Imo the combat is better then in el1 because there is no weird semi control scheme but also I'm glad its not as in depth as aow4, so combat doesnt take forever.

Autocombat is better than the average game, AoW4 also has great autocombat.

Of course playing manually to abuse terrain, and not just rush in with your units will spare you more losses, perhaps turn a defeat into victory, but playing with nothing but autoresolve still means you'll be playing by the same rules AI plays, so you're not at a disadvantage.

The combat in this game is very basic and uninteresting.
You're not missing anything if you auto resolve everything.

Saying that, if you didn't like EL1 and don't like AoW what kind of combat are you even looking for? RTS? Autobattler?

引用自 Plutonious：

The combat system in EL1 was.... not enjoyable. I basically ended up auto resolving everything. But, it was at least a little better than the absolutely awful combat in the AoW games (which I find to be the least fun of any game i've ever played). Watching some videos online, the combat still seems pretty bleak and not fun, and is perhaps even closer to AoW compared to the original game. Given that I'm never going to ever do combat if that's the case, is the game even worth picking up in this scenario where you just auto resolve everything?

Everything you posted indicates 'no' to your question. You even think the combat looks bleak in the new game and even closer to AoW (it is). If you enjoyed EL and AoW with autoresolve, you'd enjoy this too as the autoresolve is fair. However, here you can't autoresolve combat when your clear a fortress, and you will HAVE to do this. So, no, this is not going to work for you.

引用自 licker34：

The combat in this game is very basic and uninteresting.
You're not missing anything if you auto resolve everything.

Saying that, if you didn't like EL1 and don't like AoW what kind of combat are you even looking for? RTS? Autobattler?

Some sort of autobattle. None of the 4x games that venture into tactical combat do it well and it usually ends up taking way too long and distracting from the part of the game I actually want to play.

they did a good job of capturing the gameplay experience of EL1's combat. unfortunately EL1's combat does suck.

I don't understand. You complain about autoresolve and then say you want some sort of autobattle? isn't that what autoresolve is?

If you 'manual combat' you can still set it to 'auto' and literally watch the AI play the battle, if that's what you're after, but if that's the case why not just autoresolve from the beginning?

I'm so confused as to what you're after, though. What's a game you think does combat well for your taste for comparison?

For my part, IMHO AoW4 has hands down the best turn based combat in a 4X of all time.

引用自 Metro Ranger：

I don't understand. You complain about autoresolve and then say you want some sort of autobattle? isn't that what autoresolve is?

If you 'manual combat' you can still set it to 'auto' and literally watch the AI play the battle, if that's what you're after, but if that's the case why not just autoresolve from the beginning?

I'm so confused as to what you're after, though. What's a game you think does combat well for your taste for comparison?

For my part, IMHO AoW4 has hands down the best turn based combat in a 4X of all time.

Basically none of them does combat well if they go the tactical route, because all tactical combat games suck. In terms of 4x, combat in civ once it went to hexes wasn't bad but the AI struggled with it so even deity became easy. Also, auto resolve is generally fine if the game is built around it. It's fine in endless space, for instance. The problem with legends auto resolve is that it wasn't particularly balanced and loved to kill all your heroes off instantly. Because you're probably meant to fight the battles manually. But I'd rather shoot myself in the face than do that, because the combat was just that bad.

combat in 4x games is never good.
Ever.
Doomstacking is the norm for a reason.

The combat in this game is very unfun.

I tried this game on game pass and uninstalled after a few hours.

I am a bit biased to the topic, but I think it is a nice middleground. You can do manual battles if this is something you like, you can do an auto-resolve, or you can head into the battle, press auto-battle and then turn that option off if you think you can do a quick action.

I think the combat of EL1 was its weakest point. EL2 improves on it significantly, but if you don't like tactical combat in games like this, it won't win you over. Personally, I'm happy to have more control over the combat compared to EL1, and I'm glad it's more light weight than AoW4. At the end of the day, I think it's preference.

引用自 Daarkarr0w：

You can do manual battles if this is something you like.

Manual battle = tactical battle is indeed something I very much like, if there are some rules like "blocken and "klemmen" from the Battle Isle series and if for instance altitude gives an advantage, etc. AND if the AI plays intelligently (more or less).

If, AI would play totally idiotic, then it's probably not good to have manual battle against AI.

Against humans it would be always fun as its brain VS brain.

The mix of strategical elements and tactical elements is - IMO - what makes a good game even better.