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Quarantine 9 月 14 日 下午 7:58
Nightmare is trash
Game is awesome up until you play on nightmare. Everything one hits and if you dont stack AoE by round 5 its over. Needs to be rebalanced on nightmare.
最后由 Quarantine 编辑于; 9 月 14 日 下午 7:59
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Mirror 9 月 15 日 上午 12:06 
Try armour perk, an element (like electric, plasma, frost or void) and and lead head.

Keep moving, don't get boxed in, use initial stealth to find a good starting point, prioritise certain enemies. Don't just go in shooting.

I can't praise the armour perk enough on nightmare levels because without it you will get 1 shot. On the Harbringer level you want the shield perk.

And check out the guides or YouTube videos to give you some ideas.
pi73r 9 月 15 日 上午 8:22 
Just because you have skill issue doesn't mean others got it too. In fact nightmare is too easy as a highest difficulty atm. Noone is forcing you to play nightmare.
Quarantine 9 月 15 日 下午 2:47 
引用自 pi73r
Just because you have skill issue doesn't mean others got it too. In fact nightmare is too easy as a highest difficulty atm. Noone is forcing you to play nightmare.

I def don't have a skill issue lmfao. Have you seen my game list? Implementing 1 hit mechanics for every mob is just lazy game design.
Quarantine 9 月 15 日 下午 2:47 
Less than .1 percent have cleared the game on nightmare get over yourself and stop simping. Zone 1 -2 wasn't to bad. Zone 3 is terrible. Only you and like 3 others defend it. Weird flex and i'm actually almost done with zone 3. Just came to say its garbage. The balancing needs to retweaked.
最后由 Quarantine 编辑于; 9 月 15 日 下午 2:49
Quarantine 9 月 15 日 下午 2:54 
引用自 Mirror
Try armour perk, an element (like electric, plasma, frost or void) and and lead head.

Keep moving, don't get boxed in, use initial stealth to find a good starting point, prioritise certain enemies. Don't just go in shooting.

I can't praise the armour perk enough on nightmare levels because without it you will get 1 shot. On the Harbringer level you want the shield perk.

And check out the guides or YouTube videos to give you some ideas.

So far we are fine just annoying having 1 hit mechanics in any game. Its the lazy way to balance a game. Whats your strat for Uniform nightmare in Zone 3? Just noting we aren't beginner players of this genre and cleared dozens of these type of games on the hardest difficulties.
最后由 Quarantine 编辑于; 9 月 15 日 下午 2:55
Flaak 9 月 15 日 下午 3:04 
Ah this is very sad to hear but tbh I saw it coming the way the game was set up. Hard is ...well hard. So considering theres expert and then nightmare, yeah I saw it coming. But sucks to hear because me any my brother were going to go for it. But it sounds kinda poo at this point.

I dont mind the rooms but I can imagine the open boss fights or the end of zone 3 is ridiculous.

Looking forward to this discussion and hope that they do make it a little easier in the future.
Flaak 9 月 15 日 下午 3:19 
Also, I was thinking what if the dev implimented a system for bonuses for kills. For every 1k kills on an enemy increases damage by 1%

We need long term things like this and reasons to grind.
Quarantine 9 月 15 日 下午 6:49 
引用自 Flaak
Ah this is very sad to hear but tbh I saw it coming the way the game was set up. Hard is ...well hard. So considering theres expert and then nightmare, yeah I saw it coming. But sucks to hear because me any my brother were going to go for it. But it sounds kinda poo at this point.

I dont mind the rooms but I can imagine the open boss fights or the end of zone 3 is ridiculous.

Looking forward to this discussion and hope that they do make it a little easier in the future.

Oh man just know its extremely hard. Nearly every enemy 1 hits you regardless of your hp or shield. Maybe slightly easier with 3 but with 2 its not even fun. We had a blast on the previous difficulty and playing nightmare in zone 1-2 zone 3 is just terrible.
Flaak 9 月 15 日 下午 6:52 
引用自 Quarantine
引用自 Flaak
Ah this is very sad to hear but tbh I saw it coming the way the game was set up. Hard is ...well hard. So considering theres expert and then nightmare, yeah I saw it coming. But sucks to hear because me any my brother were going to go for it. But it sounds kinda poo at this point.

I dont mind the rooms but I can imagine the open boss fights or the end of zone 3 is ridiculous.

Looking forward to this discussion and hope that they do make it a little easier in the future.

Oh man just know its extremely hard. Nearly every enemy 1 hits you regardless of your hp or shield. Maybe slightly easier with 3 but with 2 its not even fun. We had a blast on the previous difficulty and playing nightmare in zone 1-2 zone 3 is just terrible.
Was so weird I literally just checked back cause I just got off and then when I left you replied haha.

Hmm, thats unfortunate to hear. Is it like bang your head against the wall undoable or just keep pushing?
Quarantine 9 月 15 日 下午 7:25 
引用自 Flaak
引用自 Quarantine

Oh man just know its extremely hard. Nearly every enemy 1 hits you regardless of your hp or shield. Maybe slightly easier with 3 but with 2 its not even fun. We had a blast on the previous difficulty and playing nightmare in zone 1-2 zone 3 is just terrible.
Was so weird I literally just checked back cause I just got off and then when I left you replied haha.

Hmm, thats unfortunate to hear. Is it like bang your head against the wall undoable or just keep pushing?
zone 3? Like make you debate downloading cheats lmao or uninstall.
pi73r 9 月 15 日 下午 10:31 
引用自 Quarantine
引用自 pi73r
Just because you have skill issue doesn't mean others got it too. In fact nightmare is too easy as a highest difficulty atm. Noone is forcing you to play nightmare.

I def don't have a skill issue lmfao. Have you seen my game list? Implementing 1 hit mechanics for every mob is just lazy game design.
You are crying about something easy. That's definition of a skill issue. Idk what games you own. I only just checked and you love diablo 4 so that's a casual gamer.
Also looks like you ain't the smartest person as you use achievements %. Almost noone cleared the game on adventure. This must mean asventure is too hard.
最后由 pi73r 编辑于; 9 月 16 日 上午 8:35
pi73r 9 月 15 日 下午 10:44 
Since you've asked so nicely I checked your most played games and the only "non casual" titles are some h3ntai/pr0n games (which you even platinumed). Gg dude
Mai_Velder 9 月 15 日 下午 11:03 
引用自 pi73r
Just because you have skill issue doesn't mean others got it too. In fact nightmare is too easy as a highest difficulty atm. Noone is forcing you to play nightmare.
I agree, once you get the ball rolling its piss easy and beat every story on Nightmare. This Quarantine person does have the skill issue.
Mirror 9 月 16 日 上午 3:42 
引用自 Quarantine
引用自 Mirror
Try armour perk, an element (like electric, plasma, frost or void) and and lead head.

Keep moving, don't get boxed in, use initial stealth to find a good starting point, prioritise certain enemies. Don't just go in shooting.

I can't praise the armour perk enough on nightmare levels because without it you will get 1 shot. On the Harbringer level you want the shield perk.

And check out the guides or YouTube videos to give you some ideas.

So far we are fine just annoying having 1 hit mechanics in any game. Its the lazy way to balance a game. Whats your strat for Uniform nightmare in Zone 3? Just noting we aren't beginner players of this genre and cleared dozens of these type of games on the hardest difficulties.


Just ran UC 3 on Nightmare which took about 30mins, my build was hipfire elemental, void, armour and lead head. I was lucky with 50% vs elites and no ammo consumption for 3 seconds items early on.

I had 1 semi-close call where I got frozen in the prison room but other than that it was all about managing distance, using corners and AOE down the enemies for the most part.

You want a high capacity heavy hitting weapon.

Rooms 1 - 19 were really straight forward.

20, stick to the side without the teleporters (also try to stay out of LOS from the teleporters because of the flys) and kill what you can from range then use the balconies to your advantage as the spiders come after you by going round or jumping down then back up.

In my entire run a pair of boots never dropped either :/

here is a screenshot of the end: https://images.steamusercontent.com/ugc/13983688938001551989/63CD9DDB05F3917DADE2D0CC5D3766F742149D1A/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

I assume the 100% accuracy is void tendrils?
最后由 Mirror 编辑于; 9 月 16 日 上午 3:45
Baron01 9 月 16 日 上午 4:32 
While I agree that the game is not properly balanced on Nightmare, I know for a fact not every enemy 1-shot you on that difficulty. In fact, very few enemies 1-hit you. However, you can get killed rather easily by a few hits in a rapid succession. Dead Eyes are prone to blow you into smithereens if you ignore them or stand in one spot for more than few seconds.

Nightmare difficulty is largely about being able to kill everything before it can kill you, or even shoot back. Offense is the preferred method of dealing with enemies as defense mechanics are massively under-tuned in the game. You can not get enough shield or HP to prevent rapid deaths and armor requires significant investment before it pays off, such heavy investment that if you are unlucky with items offer you might not get enough armor to matter at later stages.

PS. I would love to see a video of Get out of my head or Killing time missions on Nightmare. When I looked few weeks back there were none uploaded on Youtube.
最后由 Baron01 编辑于; 9 月 16 日 上午 6:21
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