魔釜小女巫

魔釜小女巫

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Lugum 8 月 25 日 上午 6:15
Can't get close to 1 dec on ice / stuck on evil mode
I know there is a guide but i can't make heads or tails from it.

Trying it on evil mode (last game mode) and got lots of upgrades done, but the highest i can get is 207Oc.
Basically one shot is already killing most of the blocks in 1 go.

Does it have to be manual like the fishing game?

And my party is 30k but i still struggle on the last few parts in Evil and i can't seem to complete it this way, any good party setup? Or do i need to keep fishing for those blue books to get a bit better?
最后由 Lugum 编辑于; 8 月 25 日 上午 6:20
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hel_dps 8 月 25 日 上午 7:44 
Yes you need to go manual the auto play won't use the mechanic with the purple orb that give + level to the ice since it shoot all in one go. Also the buff to area of hit on the item are a nerf for your score. It just collecting + blocks and snug into a corner where the purple orb will bounce one just a few of them so you can level the ice cubes enough don't even need level +99 cubes. You should be able to get Dc and way higher doing that.

For Evil mode make sure you have Cleanse and the dodge stats on all so they have a 50% to not die by the item that make the monster blow up that item is the road blocker. The middle slots are also safe if there is someone in the front and behind. Heart with the scythe is also really good if she die the scythe clove will revive the team if it's fast enough. You don't need to farm spirit from the fishing spot I soloed evil mode with Nyx with that only giving me like 58 spirit point and I skipped the 2 arenas. Also when you get the ice mini game level you will prob get a good buff from those skill point.
Lugum 8 月 25 日 上午 7:46 
引用自 hel_dps
Yes you need to go manual the auto play won't use the mechanic with the purple orb that give + level to the ice since it shoot all in one go. Also the buff to area of hit on the item are a nerf for your score. It just collecting + blocks and snug into a corner where the purple orb will bounce one just a few of them so you can level the ice cubes enough don't even need level +99 cubes. You should be able to get Dc and way higher doing that.

For Evil mode make sure you have Cleanse and the dodge stats on all so they have a 50% to not die by the item that make the monster blow up that item is the road blocker. The middle slots are also safe if there is someone in the front and behind. Heart with the scythe is also really good if she die the scythe clove will revive the team if it's fast enough. You don't need to farm spirit from the fishing spot I soloed evil mode with Nyx with that only giving me like 58 spirit point and I skipped the 2 arenas. Also when you get the ice mini game level you will prob get a good buff from those skill point.

Thank you.
Mr. Doggy 8 月 25 日 上午 9:59 
Steam dislikes capturing this game for me, so a video is out. I can try to explain a bit more step by step of how I did it.

First, play on passive. While it doesn't help get the 1Dc ice, it does help get upgrades.
Start the level by going to the deepest level of ice, level 25.
From Blinky's starting position, use the electric balls to wipe out everything in range.
Move Blinky further to the right, and clear out more of the ice, but make sure to leave the right most 20 or so blocks. Since the electric balls bounce, this means you will want to move to the right, and shoot left.
Here's where luck comes in.
You'll want to look for any spots where the arrow blocks dug into the remaining column of ice.
if there are one or more of these little cracks, move Blinky into them, and start using the ice upgrade item. You want to do this in the cracks to maximize its effectiveness.
Use several of them until the ice in the crack is in the 70s or 80s for bonus. If you still have upgrade shots available, find a new crack and do the same thing. Keep it up until you're out.
Once you're out of upgrades, obliterate the rest of the ice with anything you see fit.
Switch to Nyx, activate the magnet, and collect everything. If the magnet runs out, quickly activate another one.

That's how I did it, and on my first success I blew right past 1Dc and collected something like 100aa ice.
Lugum 8 月 25 日 上午 10:14 
引用自 Mr. Doggy
Steam dislikes capturing this game for me, so a video is out. I can try to explain a bit more step by step of how I did it.

First, play on passive. While it doesn't help get the 1Dc ice, it does help get upgrades.
Start the level by going to the deepest level of ice, level 25.
From Blinky's starting position, use the electric balls to wipe out everything in range.
Move Blinky further to the right, and clear out more of the ice, but make sure to leave the right most 20 or so blocks. Since the electric balls bounce, this means you will want to move to the right, and shoot left.
Here's where luck comes in.
You'll want to look for any spots where the arrow blocks dug into the remaining column of ice.
if there are one or more of these little cracks, move Blinky into them, and start using the ice upgrade item. You want to do this in the cracks to maximize its effectiveness.
Use several of them until the ice in the crack is in the 70s or 80s for bonus. If you still have upgrade shots available, find a new crack and do the same thing. Keep it up until you're out.
Once you're out of upgrades, obliterate the rest of the ice with anything you see fit.
Switch to Nyx, activate the magnet, and collect everything. If the magnet runs out, quickly activate another one.

That's how I did it, and on my first success I blew right past 1Dc and collected something like 100aa ice.

Thanks, well i managed somehow to get it on level 21 actually, barely and one time though, but that's enough for me.

I can understand others liking this game, but personally i hoped for more on the mini games (more in amount and more fun) hope to be done soon achievement wise.
skylerbn0718 8 月 25 日 下午 3:36 
for the stuck on evil mode issue i will say what is your party also USE BLAIR AND MORGANA THEY ARE MORE OP THEN YOU THINK THEY ARE AND DO NOT MAKE THEM TANK blair does insane damage and morgana HEALS BUFFS AND REMOVES DEBUFFS AT THE SAME TIME AND HEALS MORE THEN HEARTH you will still want hearth for revives if you use morgana
skylerbn0718 8 月 25 日 下午 3:38 
but yeah that is a big tip i don't know how helpful it is going to be on evil since i haven't beaten that yet but from my experinse those two heroes alone have just carried me ever since i got them you should have them if you have beaten at least 3 game modes
Lugum 8 月 25 日 下午 6:37 
引用自 skylerbn0718
but yeah that is a big tip i don't know how helpful it is going to be on evil since i haven't beaten that yet but from my experinse those two heroes alone have just carried me ever since i got them you should have them if you have beaten at least 3 game modes

The grey slimes were a big issue, but now i can reach the end boss however they hit me even harder, even the first dragon can almost wipe me out completely, let alone 6 rounds.
GC13 8 月 25 日 下午 8:18 
I never saw a use for the twins or Mortimer. Hearth in the back with the cheese and a revival draughts to revive everyone from vengeful blasts, Tankston doing his best to heal chip damage, and Friggie murdering everything with his special are how I bulldozed through Evil. Round out the team with Cleanse, Buffy, Huntress, Nyx, and whoever. Nobody stood a chance.
Lugum 8 月 25 日 下午 10:53 
引用自 GC13
I never saw a use for the twins or Mortimer. Hearth in the back with the cheese and a revival draughts to revive everyone from vengeful blasts, Tankston doing his best to heal chip damage, and Friggie murdering everything with his special are how I bulldozed through Evil. Round out the team with Cleanse, Buffy, Huntress, Nyx, and whoever. Nobody stood a chance.

Even with that setup, the endbosses, the first dragon is doing an big attack that kills everyone but tankston, and it does not let me heal or revive. they are bulldozing me.
In the other modes they were easy.
最后由 Lugum 编辑于; 8 月 25 日 下午 10:58
GC13 8 月 26 日 上午 4:54 
You might just be under-leveled, but giving Hearth the scythe as well is good, and someone else the shovel. Maximum revive potential really helps your resilience.
Lugum 8 月 26 日 上午 5:07 
引用自 GC13
You might just be under-leveled, but giving Hearth the scythe as well is good, and someone else the shovel. Maximum revive potential really helps your resilience.

Oh wait, i was just going on how i got all items minus the boots of swiftness, when i was going to say i don't have a scythe or shovel just to realize you have to scroll down further to see them.

I beat evil mode now.
最后由 Lugum 编辑于; 8 月 26 日 上午 10:21
Zaelle 8 月 26 日 上午 11:12 
引用自 Mr. Doggy
I can understand others liking this game, but personally i hoped for more on the mini games (more in amount and more fun) hope to be done soon achievement wise.

I loathed the fishing games and probably wouldn't have finished the game if not for being able to automate most of the mini-games in general. The others were fun enough but that only lasts so long before it becomes tedious considering how many times you are required to do them. The idea is interesting, but they definitely need to be more fleshed out if they're going to be a core part of the game. Automation is only a band-aid, but I'm glad it was there. By the time I was nearing the end of the achievements, I was really kinda over it and really had to drag to finish the ones that aren't able to be done automatically. I did finally make it though. 200~ hours on record, but a fair amount of those were the game idle in the background.
最后由 Zaelle 编辑于; 8 月 29 日 下午 4:50
skylerbn0718 8 月 29 日 下午 8:48 
javascript:Forum_ReplyToPost( '594032343582334199', '594032343582380840' ); try them i dare you
skylerbn0718 8 月 29 日 下午 8:48 
ok i did not mean to do this javascript:Forum_ReplyToPost( '594032343582334199', '594032343582380840' ); oops
skylerbn0718 8 月 29 日 下午 8:53 
@gc13 try the sisters i dare you have you seen the damage blair does or the fact that only vengaul blasts can kill you if you have morgana and moritmor i think does nyx's job BETTER THEN NYX but the sisters carried me though evil mode and double trouble you underestmate their power HEVALY
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