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zik_rey 9 月 2 日 下午 12:36
Flatpak vs native Steam download speed
I noticed that the download speed in Flatpak Steam is much higher than in the native packet version — speed can differ by 10–15 times. What causes this, and can the native version be made faster?
引用自 Da2K:
引用自 zik_rey
Packaged version usually have the speed at ~50 mb/s while flatpak version can download games with more than 800 mb/s. Game libraries for both versions are on the same drive, so I'm sure it's software issue.

Something doesn't add up here. How fast is your typical download speed running a speed test? 800 mb/s is about 8 gigabits per second. Verify both instances of Steam are set to display download speeds in MegaBITES per second and not MegaBITS per second (MB/s vs MBPS)

Nothing between these two steam client options should affect download speeds if hardware/HDD is the same for both.
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[GNU] Debian ☭ 9 月 2 日 下午 12:44 
Do not ever ever ever used flatpak instead of your distro's packages... You'll thank me later!!! 😋
zik_rey 9 月 2 日 下午 1:10 
引用自 GNU Debian ☭
Do not ever ever ever used flatpak instead of your distro's packages... You'll thank me later!!! 😋

Can you elaborate, please?
thetargos 9 月 2 日 下午 1:40 
引用自 zik_rey
引用自 GNU Debian ☭
Do not ever ever ever used flatpak instead of your distro's packages... You'll thank me later!!! 😋

Can you elaborate, please?
While Flatpaks are very convenient, they are not without problems of their own, namely permission to access several features from graphical interface to filesystem
LeviathanWon (已封禁) 9 月 2 日 下午 2:01 
Yes tell us about XDG portal great GNU Debian with soviet symbol.
Xenophobe 9 月 2 日 下午 2:17 
I prefer officially supported packages personally ...
Note: This is a community package of Steam gaming plaform not officially supported by Valve. Report bugs through linked issue tracker.
https://flathub.org/apps/com.valvesoftware.Steam

note ... they didn't spell 'platform' correctly ... does not instill confidence.
最后由 Xenophobe 编辑于; 9 月 2 日 下午 2:19
DaMu 9 月 2 日 下午 5:36 
The flatpak fast download speed comes at the cost of gutting several key background features of Steam. I'm fairly certain the existence of the Steam flatpak is for social influencers to show off how quick and easy it is to install Steam from any modern Linux distro.
Chaosolous 9 月 2 日 下午 10:21 
I recommend downloading Steam as they advise you to online.
Zyro 9 月 3 日 上午 1:18 
We usually recommend the native Steam package of the distribution (so neither Flatpak nor Snap nor downloading a package like some windows peas... user). If you can configure your sandbox five and cope with problems that might arise, like accessing another hard disc or your microphone or such things, I would recommend staying work Flatpak. If you got no idea what I'm talking about, I'd recommend the native package.

Leaves the question about the network speed open. Do you have a very new network hardware that's only semi supported by your kernel? Or maybe the Steam setting are just different inside your Flatpak?
LeviathanWon (已封禁) 9 月 3 日 上午 3:17 
There is no "We" you can install steam sandboxed or you can encourage Valve of swindlers and side show morons who won't spend their money to buy their internet service so they they can sell computers.... and move more into hardware and away from the scam casino games / spying they do for the other dumb tech scam tech companies.
grzegorz77 9 月 3 日 上午 4:55 
引用自 LeviathanWon
There is no "We" you can install steam sandboxed or you can encourage Valve of swindlers and side show morons who won't spend their money to buy their internet service so they they can sell computers.... and move more into hardware and away from the scam casino games / spying they do for the other dumb tech scam tech companies.


I encourage everyone to take advantage of Zyro advice.
I think me and him, this already meets the criteria of "we".


That's very good advice, you don't know what you're doing, steam package installed using apt, or some graphical interface for apt, will save you from problems.
Flatpak, why not, but only when you know exactly why you installed Steam in the sandbox.
Downloading from the any website, this method has no advantages, and may cause problems immediately and in the future.

:p2chell:
zik_rey 9 月 3 日 下午 2:17 
引用自 Zyro
Leaves the question about the network speed open. Do you have a very new network hardware that's only semi supported by your kernel? Or maybe the Steam setting are just different inside your Flatpak?

I have like 4 years old setup and I use Arch, so I don't think my kernel version lacks support for my hardware. if that were true, I guess the flatpak version would have slow download speed too. And I don't have any download speed restrictions in my settings.

Packaged version usually have the speed at ~50 mb/s while flatpak version can download games with more than 800 mb/s. Game libraries for both versions are on the same drive, so I'm sure it's software issue.

My guess is that steam runtime container from the distro repository has some outdated network dependencies, while the flatpak version uses common flatpak runtimes for networking. But I'm not sure what to do with this information to make native steam faster.
最后由 zik_rey 编辑于; 9 月 3 日 下午 2:26
zik_rey 9 月 4 日 上午 9:40 
引用自 Xenophobe
maybe the solution in the following will help:
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/app/221410/discussions/0/3817418793967266004/

didn't help, unfortunately
引用自 zik_rey
引用自 Zyro
Leaves the question about the network speed open. Do you have a very new network hardware that's only semi supported by your kernel? Or maybe the Steam setting are just different inside your Flatpak?

I have like 4 years old setup and I use Arch, so I don't think my kernel version lacks support for my hardware. if that were true, I guess the flatpak version would have slow download speed too. And I don't have any download speed restrictions in my settings.

Packaged version usually have the speed at ~50 mb/s while flatpak version can download games with more than 800 mb/s. Game libraries for both versions are on the same drive, so I'm sure it's software issue.

My guess is that steam runtime container from the distro repository has some outdated network dependencies, while the flatpak version uses common flatpak runtimes for networking. But I'm not sure what to do with this information to make native steam faster.

Flatpacks don't install any (network) kernel drivers, nor change the TCP/IP stack of the system; both packages (native distro's AND flatpak) should interact with the network stack the same... Steam is just a container (a browser), basically...

Double check if your steam ain't set to limit download speeds/back(down) throttle while streaming, etc...
最后由 [GNU] Debian ☭ 编辑于; 9 月 4 日 下午 2:17
Admos 9 月 28 日 下午 10:43 
引用自 zik_rey
引用自 Xenophobe
maybe the solution in the following will help:
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/app/221410/discussions/0/3817418793967266004/

didn't help, unfortunately

Here is a bunch of stuff that somewhat often helps, maybe it does also solve your issue. https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/app/221410/discussions/0/4038104598701386066/
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