Usually for hacker i take hostage taker, sneaky bastard and low conceal weapons so i can make use of SB basic and low blow basic.

My friend alto has a few hacker builds in his collection found here https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2920901205

And a more recent one found here https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3011856764

i dont recommend using those guides linked above, OP. they are medicore at best. instead give carrots, and kevs build guides a look if you want some ideas for hacker
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917083429&searchtext=carrot
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2141942312

引用自 christmasussy：

i dont recommend using those guides linked above, OP. they are medicore at best. instead give carrots, and kevs build guides a look if you want some ideas for hacker

It's sad to see that die hard carrot fans are still calling anything that isn't made by their orange idol "medicore"
Not to mention carrot quit payday and likely won't return to update his builds, ever.

However unlike the person I'm quoting here, I'd say go use whatever you like. Experiment and see what works for you. However do keep in mind that carrot builds likely won't ever be updated any more and will just be left to rot.

引用自 It's a mother f**ing bulldozer：

引用自 christmasussy：

i dont recommend using those guides linked above, OP. they are medicore at best. instead give carrots, and kevs build guides a look if you want some ideas for hacker

It's sad to see that die hard carrot fans are still calling anything that isn't made by their orange idol "medicore"
Not to mention carrot quit payday and likely won't return to update his builds, ever.

However unlike the person I'm quoting here, I'd say go use whatever you like. Experiment and see what works for you. However do keep in mind that carrot builds likely won't ever be updated any more and will just be left to rot.

stockholm syndrome aced

引用自 =WAWA= Mustaherukka Gaming：

引用自 It's a mother f**ing bulldozer：

It's sad to see that die hard carrot fans are still calling anything that isn't made by their orange idol "medicore"
Not to mention carrot quit payday and likely won't return to update his builds, ever.

However unlike the person I'm quoting here, I'd say go use whatever you like. Experiment and see what works for you. However do keep in mind that carrot builds likely won't ever be updated any more and will just be left to rot.

stockholm syndrome aced

starting the bucket list of problems:
QF aced docbags
LBV anarchist
No 70 armor on health (his muscle build in his guide)
BE basic on bodyshot setups
HBV ex prez
Combat Medic aced of all things

and this is just what i've managed to notice in 5 minutes of skimming through the guide god knows what kind of other horrible choices lie there

引用自 Dopamine terrorist：

引用自 =WAWA= Mustaherukka Gaming：

stockholm syndrome aced

starting the bucket list of problems:
QF aced docbags
LBV anarchist
No 70 armor on health (his muscle build in his guide)
BE basic on bodyshot setups
HBV ex prez
Combat Medic aced of all things

and this is just what i've managed to notice in 5 minutes of skimming through the guide god knows what kind of other horrible choices lie there

If you have any questions about the builds why don't you ask him? There's usually a reason for everything.
For example why qf aced on doc bags? If you play solo it's better than going the painkiller route plus painkiller aint that useful unless you're doing dangerous inspire revives out in the open.

引用自 It's a mother f**ing bulldozer：

It's sad to see that die hard carrot fans are still calling anything that isn't made by their orange idol "medicore"

personally, i really just use whatever i feel comfortable with.
don't like something? CHANGE IT THEN! THIS IS A PAYDAY 2 BUILD, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN'T TWEAK STUFF TO YOUR LIKING

引用自 The Hoxtifier :3：

引用自 It's a mother f**ing bulldozer：

It's sad to see that die hard carrot fans are still calling anything that isn't made by their orange idol "medicore"

personally, i really just use whatever i feel comfortable with.
don't like something? CHANGE IT THEN! THIS IS A PAYDAY 2 BUILD, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN'T TWEAK STUFF TO YOUR LIKING

Also, carrot actually somewhat expanded the variety of tracks i listen to. Like, if being honest, i don't really play GD, so yeah... The only tracks i really listened to were either synthwave/darksynth or PD2 soundtrack

引用自 It's a mother f**ing bulldozer：

引用自 Dopamine terrorist：

starting the bucket list of problems:
QF aced docbags
LBV anarchist
No 70 armor on health (his muscle build in his guide)
BE basic on bodyshot setups
HBV ex prez
Combat Medic aced of all things

and this is just what i've managed to notice in 5 minutes of skimming through the guide god knows what kind of other horrible choices lie there

If you have any questions about the builds why don't you ask him? There's usually a reason for everything.
For example why qf aced on doc bags? If you play solo it's better than going the painkiller route plus painkiller aint that useful unless you're doing dangerous inspire revives out in the open.

well i mean, the dude cant handle any criticism from what ive seen throughout his posts, thats why all his mediocre guides have no comments enabled, plus hes the same guy who tried to prove that you can get 4 shot lbv on anarchist on its own, but when shown actual math that you couldnt, he kept denying it.

引用自 Kevy & Wevy：

引用自 It's a mother f**ing bulldozer：

If you have any questions about the builds why don't you ask him? There's usually a reason for everything.
For example why qf aced on doc bags? If you play solo it's better than going the painkiller route plus painkiller aint that useful unless you're doing dangerous inspire revives out in the open.

well i mean, the dude cant handle any criticism from what ive seen throughout his posts, thats why all his mediocre guides have no comments enabled, plus hes the same guy who tried to prove that you can get 4 shot lbv on anarchist on its own, but when shown actual math that you couldnt, he kept denying it.

Can't see criticism if they don't even get the chance to criticize me, simple.

引用自 Kevy & Wevy：

引用自 It's a mother f**ing bulldozer：

If you have any questions about the builds why don't you ask him? There's usually a reason for everything.
For example why qf aced on doc bags? If you play solo it's better than going the painkiller route plus painkiller aint that useful unless you're doing dangerous inspire revives out in the open.

well i mean, the dude cant handle any criticism from what ive seen throughout his posts, thats why all his mediocre guides have no comments enabled, plus hes the same guy who tried to prove that you can get 4 shot lbv on anarchist on its own, but when shown actual math that you couldnt, he kept denying it.

There's criticism and then there's just plain harrassment. After dealing with a certain toxic discord group which shall remain nameless, if you are from that discord you are likely not able to comment on my guides any more. The rest of the community can still comment.
This is all I'm saying on the matter.

Bronco akimbo might work for dozers, but when paired with the locomotive it's all-round quite slow at taking out multiple targets, i.e. the usual swarm of cops on higher difficulties. That and locomotive doesn't quite pack enough bang to deal with enemies as the health pools inflate.

You might wanna supplement the akimbos with something more sustainable, like an smg or even a stryk pistol, if you plan on going for gunslinger tree.
In that case, it's highly suggested to get the basic of low blow for crits, and possibly sneaky bastard for extra dodge.

I've no idea what your skills actually are, but for most dodge builds bullseye basic is a must, as to abuse the armor gate - the fact that a bullet doesn't go through both armor and health, allowing you to eat 255 damage shots with just 5 armor points using bullseye.

If you do really plan on sticking to shotguns tho, you want to get most of the shotgunner tree in the enforcer, as just about any shotgun barring say mosconi is quite subpar without those.

Swan song + inspire is overall nice for playing with other players.

I'm not really into just dropping a build like a few people here, but i guess i could describe what i've been using for most of my DS runs and just overall loud play -
Triple 1200 fire rate smgs, micro uzis + jacket's piece specifically
Inspire/Hostage taker/Bullseye/technician smg reload skills
basic low blow and sneaky bastard, triple smg allows to reach the 4 detection quite easily
swan song just cause its a bit of a habit + makes it easy to take out the turrets if you wanna trade a down for it.
Works like a charm if you don't stand out in the open like sicario under smoke and actually dip in and out of cover. Constant buff of second wind basic allows to cover ground pretty quickly, and thanks to lock n load fire-on-the-run - you can regen armor without stopping to shoot, allowing you to survive more shots and get more second wind speed to move.

引用自 SD.Laeley-EN-：

Bronco akimbo might work for dozers, but when paired with the locomotive it's all-round quite slow at taking out multiple targets, i.e. the usual swarm of cops on higher difficulties. That and locomotive doesn't quite pack enough bang to deal with enemies as the health pools inflate.

You might wanna supplement the akimbos with something more sustainable, like an smg or even a stryk pistol, if you plan on going for gunslinger tree.
In that case, it's highly suggested to get the basic of low blow for crits, and possibly sneaky bastard for extra dodge.

I've no idea what your skills actually are, but for most dodge builds bullseye basic is a must, as to abuse the armor gate - the fact that a bullet doesn't go through both armor and health, allowing you to eat 255 damage shots with just 5 armor points using bullseye.

If you do really plan on sticking to shotguns tho, you want to get most of the shotgunner tree in the enforcer, as just about any shotgun barring say mosconi is quite subpar without those.

Swan song + inspire is overall nice for playing with other players.

I'm not really into just dropping a build like a few people here, but i guess i could describe what i've been using for most of my DS runs and just overall loud play -
Triple 1200 fire rate smgs, micro uzis + jacket's piece specifically
Inspire/Hostage taker/Bullseye/technician smg reload skills
basic low blow and sneaky bastard, triple smg allows to reach the 4 detection quite easily
swan song just cause its a bit of a habit + makes it easy to take out the turrets if you wanna trade a down for it.
Works like a charm if you don't stand out in the open like sicario under smoke and actually dip in and out of cover. Constant buff of second wind basic allows to cover ground pretty quickly, and thanks to lock n load fire-on-the-run - you can regen armor without stopping to shoot, allowing you to survive more shots and get more second wind speed to move.

"Any heister born after November 11 2020 can't use Repeater 1874.. all they know is laser attachments, scope they rifle, add crosshair mod, be sydney, eat swan song, and die"
Jokes aside, swan song is a good skill when aced and paired with explosives, negating one of grenade launcher downsides - low ammo pickup rates

https://pd2builder.netlify.app/?s=xk381000c11000100900Chl2xe0100&p=k&a=0&t=d&d=5
Basic Killwhore hacker build with akimbo stryks and 5/7 for shields

Ammo pickup rate shouldnt be a problem unless you're just shooting at thin air, HT isnt needed as you can gain health extremely fast from pecm and using primary to clear hordes with ease, surefire aced for piercing through body armor

The rest of the skills should be self explanatory

引用自 Kevy & Wevy：

https://pd2builder.netlify.app/?s=xk381000c11000100900Chl2xe0100&p=k&a=0&t=d&d=5
Basic Killwhore hacker build with akimbo stryks and 5/7 for shields

Ammo pickup rate shouldnt be a problem unless you're just shooting at thin air, HT isnt needed as you can gain health extremely fast from pecm and using primary to clear hordes with ease, surefire aced for piercing through body armor

The rest of the skills should be self explanatory

Akimbo stryk and 5/7 with no ammo bags?
No hostage taker on hacker is also a bit..
yea.
The build aint the worst thing in the world but i can definitely see people struggling to use this effectively.