引用自 Algasaldi：

you play the way you want my friend
don't feel obligated to play a certain way because of some brainrot nolife who spend 1000h on souls like games tell you so
if it's in the game it's legit

引用自 Algasaldi：

you play the way you want my friend
don't feel obligated to play a certain way because of some brainrot nolife who spend 1000h on souls like games tell you so
if it's in the game it's legit

引用自 Walrus Beard：

引用自 Algasaldi：

you play the way you want my friend
don't feel obligated to play a certain way because of some brainrot nolife who spend 1000h on souls like games tell you so
if it's in the game it's legit

I don't really feel obligated one way or the other. For my own sense of personal satisfaction, I want to be able to say that I beat a boss with my own skills rather than resorting to summoning and cheap tricks. Perhaps I would have persevered if I weren't so eager to experience the story which I hear is really really good. I just wanted to progress after being stuck for a very long time.

引用自 Algasaldi：

引用自 Walrus Beard：

I don't really feel obligated one way or the other. For my own sense of personal satisfaction, I want to be able to say that I beat a boss with my own skills rather than resorting to summoning and cheap tricks. Perhaps I would have persevered if I weren't so eager to experience the story which I hear is really really good. I just wanted to progress after being stuck for a very long time.

There's a mod to increase the perfect guard frames,it can help you if you struggle
it stills require some skill but it's more on the reflexes than memorize the pattern

引用自 DarkOutX：

You are not alone. I couldn't beat it on second run even with experience, while was able to win ALL other bosses without assist.
But still, it's balanced. It, as last main story boss, require a specific playstyle.
You have to play aggressively. You must punish attacks to beat him before lose all health, while with other bosses you can just avoid damage and use animation windows to perform attack
Oh, and this one doesn't allow you to use parry OR dodge. You must use both depends on situation

引用自 𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒：

引用自 DarkOutX：

You are not alone. I couldn't beat it on second run even with experience, while was able to win ALL other bosses without assist.
But still, it's balanced. It, as last main story boss, require a specific playstyle.
You have to play aggressively. You must punish attacks to beat him before lose all health, while with other bosses you can just avoid damage and use animation windows to perform attack
Oh, and this one doesn't allow you to use parry OR dodge. You must use both depends on situation

Any no damage all bosses video will prove how little sense does that make.

First of all dodges are garbage and you should NEVER use them concidering tracking of enemies and how they leap forward with every atack (they have no Iframes, barely any distance and make you stuck on enemies you trying to dogde through).

Second everything in this game is parryble (Even most of grabs (which you suppose to run away from NOT DODGE) you can parry). Just because you are not good enough doesn't mean it's not.
Besides Retaining guard is a mechanic in case you didn't notice. Yes by blocking and hiting enemies you can get your health back, so there is ABSOLUTLY no point for you to ever dogde if you can block. Like hell thats the entire reason why aegis was always so busted.

引用自 paladin181：

引用自 𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒：

Any no damage all bosses video will prove how little sense does that make.

First of all dodges are garbage and you should NEVER use them concidering tracking of enemies and how they leap forward with every atack (they have no Iframes, barely any distance and make you stuck on enemies you trying to dogde through).

Second everything in this game is parryble (Even most of grabs (which you suppose to run away from NOT DODGE) you can parry). Just because you are not good enough doesn't mean it's not.
Besides Retaining guard is a mechanic in case you didn't notice. Yes by blocking and hiting enemies you can get your health back, so there is ABSOLUTLY no point for you to ever dogde if you can block. Like hell thats the entire reason why aegis was always so busted.

Hahahahhaa!

Dodging works just fine, and does actually have some I frames apparently, as I can dodge right through attacks from the King of Puppets' attacks. In fact, it works better than blocking at times because blocking attacks comes with knockback and outs you out of position to punish. There are plenty of reasons to dodge when you don't want to get blown out of position. The best path uses both perfect blocks and dodges to the best effect.

引用自 adam：

引用自 paladin181：

Hahahahhaa!

Dodging works just fine, and does actually have some I frames apparently, as I can dodge right through attacks from the King of Puppets' attacks. In fact, it works better than blocking at times because blocking attacks comes with knockback and outs you out of position to punish. There are plenty of reasons to dodge when you don't want to get blown out of position. The best path uses both perfect blocks and dodges to the best effect.

I will say from my own time playing this game, that I'm not sure where I stand about dodging in LOP. there's not an incentive to mix dodging at all really with blocking and parrying. With blocking and parrying, you are rewarded much greater and you are encouraged as you inflict stagger damage, I can't think of any downsides to it. The reality is, dodging doesn't come anywhere close useful as blocking or parrying. It is ideal for a player that has never played a soulslike game before, (and or) can't react well to fury attacks, but most of the time running away solves that problem for that said player.

I do agree with you that during the KOP 1st phase dodging really does help closing the gap between attacks as he does knock you back. I had a NG+ save in which I couldn't get an attack a single attack in for about 25 seconds due to him reusing the attacks that inflict so much knockback lol, but outside the scope of that fight, there's no reason to really include it in your moveset in my personal experience.