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XtReMz98 8 月 26 日 上午 6:58
Seeking advice: Lies/Truth for NG
Howdy,

New to Lies of P. My main goal is to limit myself to 2 playthroughs to get all achievements. I feel like LoP's structure is quite similar to Elden Ring and while I can recover any missteps in my NG+ playthrough, I'd like to avoid anything that would only be possible in a lying/truthful run.

If anyone could correct me if I'm wrong here: it is recommended to start with a lying run, but that doesn't mean I am REQUIRED to ALWAYS lie? For example, I think Eugenie needs a truthful response for her questline to be resolved. Can that be done in a mostly lies-full NG run? What other instances would you advice telling the truth be advisable while still getting my humanity high enough the get both "good endings" on my NG, then go full truth on NG+ for the "bad ending"?

I understand that (some) spoilers might be unavoidable, which I'm okay with because these games tend to be too cryptic to simply "wing it" (which means NG++ for those who go in blind).

Thanks in advance for taking a few minutes of your day to help me get a clean NG achievement run!

Cheers!
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LuckyCheshire 8 月 26 日 上午 7:10 
Since there are three endings, each with a unique achievement, getting all of them in two playthroughs should prove... interesting. :lukasLaugh:

Off the top of my head, for the maximum rewards always lie except at the end of Eugenie's questline and when Polendina asks about marriage (give him a ring instead). Always give characters items when they ask for them. Keep in mind that "truths" aren't always factually correct statements opposed to "lies", but instead more like statements where you act like a cold unfeeling robot instead of an empathetic human who can understand nuance.
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palacentes 8 月 26 日 上午 7:46 
Kinda gettable in 2 plays.

1. bad ending - easiest to get ending. Just choose to surrender. Not the exact choice, but it will be obvious when its time. Lies or truth, or any kind of choices dont really matter. Except this one choice at the end.


2. best ending - A lot of humanity or lies. You dont need all. Just enough to trigger like 2-3? changes in your character. Characters will also comment on it and notice. You can also listen to music and do DLC humanity activities... its pretty easy to get enough.

When the time comes, choose give "Give her peace". It has to be right when you are offered. It will be very late game and you will know. The game will make a big deal out of it. You have to be impulsive w this decision. There is no "later".


3. mid ending. You pretend this doesnt exist. Its the best ending, but sadder. You tried to get best ending, but you did not choose "Give her peace" or you did so but lacked humanity.

As for truth and lies, Generally lying is always good. Theres like, maybe one case where truth is good, that girl's questline. But choosing to lie will still give humanity.
𝕊𝕠𝕡𝕙𝕚𝕒 (已封禁) 8 月 26 日 上午 8:47 
引用自 XtReMz98
Howdy,

New to Lies of P. My main goal is to limit myself to 2 playthroughs to get all achievements. I feel like LoP's structure is quite similar to Elden Ring and while I can recover any missteps in my NG+ playthrough, I'd like to avoid anything that would only be possible in a lying/truthful run.

If anyone could correct me if I'm wrong here: it is recommended to start with a lying run, but that doesn't mean I am REQUIRED to ALWAYS lie? For example, I think Eugenie needs a truthful response for her questline to be resolved. Can that be done in a mostly lies-full NG run? What other instances would you advice telling the truth be advisable while still getting my humanity high enough the get both "good endings" on my NG, then go full truth on NG+ for the "bad ending"?

I understand that (some) spoilers might be unavoidable, which I'm okay with because these games tend to be too cryptic to simply "wing it" (which means NG++ for those who go in blind).

Thanks in advance for taking a few minutes of your day to help me get a clean NG achievement run!

Cheers!
It's not about lies but about behaving like human does
and also with addition of dlc there is plenty things to get good ending even having multiple wrong decision.
it all boils down to choice in final champter near end of game after defeating hardest boss.
XtReMz98 8 月 26 日 上午 11:58 
引用自 LuckyCheshire
Since there are three endings, each with a unique achievement, getting all of them in two playthroughs should prove... interesting. :lukasLaugh:

Well, if it's like Elden Ring, it is possible to backup your saves if the only thing that differentiate two given endings is 1 choice (as opposed as a complete style you need to apply during your playthrough). I believe the two good endings do offer this possibility. The bad one you need to act like a robot throughout, but I might be mistaken.



引用自 palacentes
Kinda gettable in 2 plays.

2. best ending - A lot of humanity or lies. You dont need all. Just enough to trigger like 2-3? changes in your character. Characters will also comment on it and notice. You can also listen to music and do DLC humanity activities... its pretty easy to get enough.

As for truth and lies, Generally lying is always good. Theres like, maybe one case where truth is good, that girl's questline. But choosing to lie will still give humanity.

Ah I see, only a handful of lies opens up the good ending then. I thought it more around 95% of the choices, so then I have way more leeway in my choices, like ending Eugenie's quest with a truth to get her record.


引用自 LuckyCheshire
Off the top of my head, for the maximum rewards always lie except at the end of Eugenie's questline and when Polendina asks about marriage (give him a ring instead). Always give characters items when they ask for them.

Thanks for the heads-up about Polendina (and every other NPC seeking objects). It will most likely help me avoid failing any NPC's questlines.
LuckyCheshire 8 月 26 日 下午 12:16 
引用自 XtReMz98
引用自 LuckyCheshire
Since there are three endings, each with a unique achievement, getting all of them in two playthroughs should prove... interesting. :lukasLaugh:

Well, if it's like Elden Ring, it is possible to backup your saves if the only thing that differentiate two given endings is 1 choice (as opposed as a complete style you need to apply during your playthrough). I believe the two good endings do offer this possibility. The bad one you need to act like a robot throughout, but I might be mistaken.
It's very likely possible, but I'm not sure if it's quite as easy. Playthroughs get faster each time you complete them though, so it's not too much of a chore to rush through NG+2 for the last ending.

Acting like a robot through the whole game will lock you out of good endings (depending on just how much Humanity you have), but you'll never get locked out of the bad ending.

Oh, and incidentally, the system with the titular lies is that every time you lie a (mostly) hidden stat called Humanity goes up. Lies aren't the only way to get humanity though, you also gain it from listening to records (for the first time each playthrough) and by performing a few specific semi-obscure actions in various places, such as using the Pray emote in front of the angel statue just outside of St. Frangelico Abbey. Besides endings, Humanity also affects how powerful a certain special weapon that I'm not going to spoil for you is.
XtReMz98 8 月 26 日 下午 7:28 
引用自 LuckyCheshire
Acting like a robot through the whole game will lock you out of good endings (depending on just how much Humanity you have), but you'll never get locked out of the bad ending.

Ah that is good info for my 2nd playthrough. I'll try to only tell the truth then, but it's good to know that whatever I do I can still get the "soulless robot" ending.

Thanks once again for taking a bit of your time on this topic :)
FrozenYoghurt20 8 月 26 日 下午 11:28 
It's not lying or telling truth that decides the ending and there is not a requirement on lying or telling truth through the full run. Ending is decided by how u choose on Sophia and giving your heart. Also, lying does not always guarantee a humanity increase.
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