sadly thats a common thing with dragon quest games, there always have to be a woman who uses sex appeal

I honestly thought it would be best for sylvando to be the only one with sex appeal skills

even serena would make sense cause she is the beautiful girl and innocent, so it would be kinda funny to see her try sex appeal skills and getting embarassed or failling constantly like the twack ability xd


but yeah jade doesnt really make sense

Act 3 can be seen as a separate universe and I don't trust the dialog about the previous reality to "vanish" .

Jade was raised on her late childhood to adulthood by a pervert old king so it makes perfect sense that she learned from his bad habits and her abilities reflect this very fact as she uses the charm stat for these specific attacks. Also that scene with Booga helped put that overconfidence into check because she thought that she could prevail alone and became reckless.

I'm glad that she got sexualized because that's 1 of the many reasons why Japanese games stay relevant in the sea of bland sanitized western games. I do hope that they continue the tradition. Serena is more on the cute side in this game.

Well, I didn't expect a few comments anymore. Strangely enough, I don't mind sexualization for comedic purposes rather than tragic ones. As Tsune said, imagine how hilarious it would have been for Sylvando to expand on it or Serena unlocked it with 10 percent chance of shy pox. It would be her most overpowered ability but a side effect is lurking.

As for LordKaiser, I know she was raised by a pervy king but I think keeping her confidence in check could've been handled differently. This is some serious stuff especially for children and people having a trauma of a similar real life situation. It's just too bad she just embraces her new powers afterwards as if she owned it. I don't see her like this. She could have just as well have a training arc as much as Rab would've had. Expand on her spear for example and introduce attacks for massive damage at the cost of some MP.

And I don't think sexualization should be the sole reason why Anime is still relevant. I mean, most popular shonen Anime have some real pervy moments and nowadays the market is filled with loser guy/big boob women relationship story arcs. The most important thing is the story for me and if that revolves around a pervy Manga creator/Anime creator's perviness I bail. I've seen enough Anime with good stories that don't need a perv to succeed (Gundam, Princess Kaguya and Grave of the Fireflies come to mind. Maybe One Punch Man Season 1 has perviness in it, but it's not a central character's focus. I don't know about Seasons 2 & 3). It is possible, but the market often times wants "fan service" in it.

引用自 MantaOrlando：

Well, I didn't expect a few comments anymore. Strangely enough, I don't mind sexualization for comedic purposes rather than tragic ones. As Tsune said, imagine how hilarious it would have been for Sylvando to expand on it or Serena unlocked it with 10 percent chance of shy pox. It would be her most overpowered ability but a side effect is lurking.

As for LordKaiser, I know she was raised by a pervy king but I think keeping her confidence in check could've been handled differently. This is some serious stuff especially for children and people having a trauma of a similar real life situation. It's just too bad she just embraces her new powers afterwards as if she owned it. I don't see her like this. She could have just as well have a training arc as much as Rab would've had. Expand on her spear for example and introduce attacks for massive damage at the cost of some MP.

And I don't think sexualization should be the sole reason why Anime is still relevant. I mean, most popular shonen Anime have some real pervy moments and nowadays the market is filled with loser guy/big boob women relationship story arcs. The most important thing is the story for me and if that revolves around a pervy Manga creator/Anime creator's perviness I bail. I've seen enough Anime with good stories that don't need a perv to succeed (Gundam, Princess Kaguya and Grave of the Fireflies come to mind. Maybe One Punch Man Season 1 has perviness in it, but it's not a central character's focus. I don't know about Seasons 2 & 3). It is possible, but the market often times wants "fan service" in it.

This game is rated T in America so it's for teenagers, not for children at all and they can handle themes like this.

As for people with trauma, that's a problem specific to someone and I'm not in favor of having sanitized story elements because it traumatizes people that suffered a specific trauma. In fact I see that game developers today are afraid to explore certain themes for fear of getting cancelled. Things that used to exist during the 90s and early 2ks.

I'm not going comment on the problematic argument I think the worst thing that came from it is the lack of a good Jade story for ch 2 every other character gets their moment in the spotlight except Jade who's status is boiled down to just being fan service. Every other character does something cool and has their goals achieved and for most you get to play with them up to the point there story concludes but you just get Jade as a reward for defeating the boss and to add insult to injury there's not even a cutscene if you bring Jade back to her father.

The problem with Jade is that she shares backstory with the protagonist and I agree that there was still more room for cut scenes as there's no scenes with teenager Hendrik and Jasper with a child Martina/Jade.

And also the staff din't even spent time making a younger King Carnelian model. They used the same model as present day Carnelian making the scene with baby Jade look weird.

引用自 Tsune：

sadly thats a common thing with dragon quest games, there always have to be a woman who uses sex appeal

I honestly thought it would be best for sylvando to be the only one with sex appeal skills

even serena would make sense cause she is the beautiful girl and innocent, so it would be kinda funny to see her try sex appeal skills and getting embarassed or failling constantly like the twack ability xd


but yeah jade doesnt really make sense

There's plenty of western games that you can enjoy which fit your standards.

No, it doesn't have to make sense, it just has to look good.

引用自 LordKaiserX0：

I'm glad that she got sexualized because that's the reason why Japanese games stay relevant in the sea of bland sanitized western games. I do hope that they continue the tradition. Serena is more on the cute side in this game.

Even with that said, Martina is pretty tame when you compare some of the same clothes she and Jessica from DQ 8 share.

With what they did to DQ3, I'm very skeptical about how "safe" DQ XII will be.

引用自 MantaOrlando：

Well, I didn't expect a few comments anymore. Strangely enough, I don't mind sexualization for comedic purposes rather than tragic ones. As Tsune said, imagine how hilarious it would have been for Sylvando to expand on it or Serena unlocked it with 10 percent chance of shy pox. It would be her most overpowered ability but a side effect is lurking..........but the market often times wants "fan service" in it.

What is hilarious is people openly want the tokenized LGBTQ character (which Sylvia wasn't even meant to be) to be sexualized, and he kind of is, just in a different way. The bottom portion of his skill tree translates to "lady" or "ladylike". It has a censored name in English iirc.

But these same people can write essays on how traditional female beauty and sexiness is bad for.............reasons.

This is a wide societal problem, it's the woke mindvirus.

As for the topic at hand, I've said this before, but I, to this day, maintain that Martina and Emma should've been just one character.

引用自 LordKaiserX0：

I'm glad that she got sexualized because that's the reason why Japanese games stay relevant in the sea of bland sanitized western games. I do hope that they continue the tradition. Serena is more on the cute side in this game.

So the only thing that makes JRPGs "good" is scantly clad women?

引用自 brianloveslisa：

引用自 LordKaiserX0：

I'm glad that she got sexualized because that's the reason why Japanese games stay relevant in the sea of bland sanitized western games. I do hope that they continue the tradition. Serena is more on the cute side in this game.

So the only thing that makes JRPGs "good" is scantly clad women?

No, there's more reasons but I cited only one of them. The sentence was poorly structured and wrote in the heat of the moment so is kind of erroneous in that regard. It should had said 1 of the reasons. (i'll edit it later)

Story , music and visuals are important but also does fan service as they draw attention to them and by extension to the game that they come from. it's not the only thing they offer of course.

I'm tired of the people that can't see a bit of skin from a female character and claim it's oversexualized. It seems that they want everything to be sanitized. And now we have payment processors breathing over our necks. It's so annoying!

引用自 LordKaiserX0：

引用自 brianloveslisa：

So the only thing that makes JRPGs "good" is scantly clad women?

No, there's more reasons but I cited only one of them. The sentence was poorly structured and wrote in the heat of the moment so is kind of erroneous in that regard. It should had said 1 of the reasons. (i'll edit it later)

Story , music and visuals are important but also does fan service as they draw attention to them and by extension to the game that they come from. it's not the only thing they offer of course.

I'm tired of the people that can't see a bit of skin from a female character and claim it's oversexualized. It seems that they want everything to be sanitized. And now we have payment processors breathing over our necks. It's so annoying!

Oh so would you be okay with the male form being just as sexualized in games?

引用自 brianloveslisa：

引用自 LordKaiserX0：

No, there's more reasons but I cited only one of them. The sentence was poorly structured and wrote in the heat of the moment so is kind of erroneous in that regard. It should had said 1 of the reasons. (i'll edit it later)

Story , music and visuals are important but also does fan service as they draw attention to them and by extension to the game that they come from. it's not the only thing they offer of course.

I'm tired of the people that can't see a bit of skin from a female character and claim it's oversexualized. It seems that they want everything to be sanitized. And now we have payment processors breathing over our necks. It's so annoying!

Oh so would you be okay with the male form being just as sexualized in games?

It would be ok, I don't care about that.

引用自 LordKaiserX0：

引用自 brianloveslisa：

Oh so would you be okay with the male form being just as sexualized in games?

It would be ok, I don't care about that.

Have to say, most people are one-sided with that. Refreshing to see someone say otherwise.