Alpha flight controls were better, quite frankly, for several reasons. However, if the current flight controls are the way the game was meant to be, the minimum changes that I'd recommend, is locking the camera to follow direction of flight,during flight, so your steering is more intuitive, rather than having to manually control the camera at the same times as steering. Additionally, restore the automatic safe landing to end flight when too low to the ground, rather than unrealistic, immersion-breaking crash landings.

引用自 Senmitsuya：

Alpha flight controls were better, quite frankly, for several reasons. However, if the current flight controls are the way the game was meant to be, the minimum changes that I'd recommend, is locking the camera to follow direction of flight,during flight, so your steering is more intuitive, rather than having to manually control the camera at the same times as steering. Additionally, restore the automatic safe landing to end flight when too low to the ground, rather than unrealistic, immersion-breaking crash landings.

Totally against this. At least the last part. Crashing is very much realistic, it just doesn't have animations for it. It's more realistic to crash if you approach the ground too fast. Just learn how to land and you won't crash.

引用自 Ulta：

引用自 Senmitsuya：

Alpha flight controls were better, quite frankly, for several reasons. However, if the current flight controls are the way the game was meant to be, the minimum changes that I'd recommend, is locking the camera to follow direction of flight,during flight, so your steering is more intuitive, rather than having to manually control the camera at the same times as steering. Additionally, restore the automatic safe landing to end flight when too low to the ground, rather than unrealistic, immersion-breaking crash landings.

Totally against this. At least the last part. Crashing is very much realistic, it just doesn't have animations for it. It's more realistic to crash if you approach the ground too fast. Just learn how to land and you won't crash.

The collisions boxes that trigger crash landings are too large. Always have been. Yes, skimming the ground is not exactly a safe flight maneuver. but when you have half your dragon's height between your dragon and the ground, and suddenly flight is interrupted denying an opportunity to pull up to a higher altitude, that is pretty unrealistic. I never took issue with it before, because despite the inconvenience, the automated landings made up for it. At the very least, unless the collisions boxes can be tightened up, to avoid crashes when your dragon is not yet actually physically touching the ground, a leybinding to initiate a semi-automated landing would not be unreasonable.

Thanks though for finding the follow camera suggestion agreeable. It's actually the lack of this that has caused most of my crashes.

flying was definitely easier in the last version, also if I hit a tree thats it I land

引用自 Flamekeeper：

flying was definitely easier in the last version, also if I hit a tree thats it I land

I did crash and faceplant quite a few times before getting used to the controls. My only regret is that dive attacks won't be an option, considering how easy it is to miss your mark. I also get the feeling that most dragons will be too clumsy to fight mid-air.

I love this flight system! Its not supposed to be easy :) Feels natural once you get the hang of it, and I feel like a Juvi actually learning how to fly. These are the kinds of experiences I paid for. Keep it up devs!

Change the flying Controls!!!! This is very very BIG ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

Flying controls can be customized in the Input settings menu

So far, I've been loving the shadowscale. My only suggestion is to allow us to use the camera/mouse as a directional input option, while flying, instead of the WASD keys. Im finding the dragons reaction time with keyboard keys too slow to fly smoothly with it. An example would be, simply changing direction from left to right, is very clunky and feels horrid. I love everything else, and hope the camera/mouse can be an option later on for flight control.
Update: I have been able to connect and use a ps4 controller, and find it much better. I do still wish the camera auto tracked behind the dragon, instead of always manually having to be moved though. Also I am finding the ps4 controller disconnects anytime there is a lag spike ingame, and this is with it wired into a usb port, and ensuring steam dosn't have auto turn off, and that all usb ports have power to them. (i google troubleshooted it as best i could, and its still Disconnecting after everything.)

ya everyone struggles with the controls for these. I can only imagine how hard it is for people with disabilities.

The newest patch has made keyboard flying more bearable for me. All I need is an option for the camera to lock onto the back of the dragon in flight, and I should be ok. I still vastly prefer a controller, but atm my ps4 controller is all i have and I'll have to wait for a patch to hopefully keep it from disconnecting. I've tested other multiple games, and it runs fine, I can only assume its being crazy due to beta. (no access to a microsoft brand controller sady) Still greatly enjoying the game though despite this, and look forward to more updates later.

引用自 Rishal：

The newest patch has made keyboard flying more bearable for me. All I need is an option for the camera to lock onto the back of the dragon in flight, and I should be ok. I still vastly prefer a controller, but atm my ps4 controller is all i have and I'll have to wait for a patch to hopefully keep it from disconnecting. I've tested other multiple games, and it runs fine, I can only assume its being crazy due to beta. (no access to a microsoft brand controller sady) Still greatly enjoying the game though despite this, and look forward to more updates later.

Is coding support different from a microsoft controller to a PS controller? Is so yea maybe no support for that type of one. The camera moving doesnt bother me too much but i would also like an option to toggle to a different flight mode where you turn based on where your crossheir is, Arma 3 did this when flying helicopters and it was handy being able to switch.

To all of you who give nothing but positive reviews, you kinda come off like devs secretly review-brigading to give self-serving praise. And sorry if that's not the case, the internet has made me very cynical. However, this IS an Open Beta, which means we are ALL effectively unpaid Beta Testers. Those who say the flight mechanics are over-complicated have as much valid point as those who got the hang of them, in fact possibly deserve slightly more attention, as a representation of possible reasons the game will ultimately bomb, and go the way of other visionary MMOs that can't even be downloaded anymore.

Without going into a extreme detail, I can tell you this, you're NOT getting a "realistic experience" flying as a Dragon, not with these mechanics, or the old mechanics, There is such a severe gap between what would be realistic in relation to their flight anatomy, and what you're playing with, that both the in-game physics, and control mechanics would require heavy tweaking and likely a control interface that hasn't been invented yet, Full Dive VR. This is not a shortcoming of the dev team, but a shortcoming of available technology to design the game within.

All that said, this game is supposedly going to include breeding mechanics, combat, hunting, PVE and PVP servers, Clans, roleplaying, crafting, establishing lairs, etc., etc,. etc. That requires a lot of players to make enjoyable. A lot more than those who aren't going to just rage-quit when they get tired of frustrating gameplay mechanics, and demand refunds. I've been playing this for awhile in Alpha. I love it. I want to see it not just succeed, but thrive. This is the virtual roleplaying experience I've always wanted, and assuming the flight mechanics aren't too difficult, I know a LOT of people I can sell on joining in when it's completed.

So I put it to the devs, which is more important? Super-realistic dragon flight simulator, or the full vision of the game?

A lot of gamers like to dive right in and get to the real meat of the games ASAP. A game with rough beginnings, a ton of negative reviews floating around online, from a developer almost no one has heard of, will have enough challenges, when it launches its completed version. one of those challenges should not be a completely avoidable issue, standing between the meat of the game, and gamers who have neither the time nor patience to play Flight Simulator: Dragon Edition.

Yeah, the Acid-Spitter Drake is an option for those who don't like flying, but that's a whole other set of things that need improvement, like possibily a water-breathing ability, deeper bodies of water, with depths that only they can handle, and a faster swim speed. Also it would make more sense for such an amphibious creature to default hatch near bodies of water.