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Only Zuul 2021 年 3 月 11 日 下午 10:47
"Infamy" perk not working
Combat log snippet attached.

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Used the ring to get loyalty, which should override sneak attack immunity. Then "Undercover" for +3 sneak attack synergy, and finally "Balanced dagger" for an expected 5-10 x 6 damage against 4 damage resistance. I'm not actually aware if resist is applied before or after sneak attack modifier, but even if it's applied first, the absolute minimum possible damage should be 1 x 6. As far as I can tell there doesn't exist a scenario where the total damage should end up as 1.

Looking at the combat log it appears that the sneak attack modifier was never applied at all, despite both the base sneak attack and the +3 modifier being displayed. Could also be a bug with sneak attack in general, since the combat log doesn't actually mention any immunity playing into it, but my assumption is that it has to do with the perk, since that's the only novel circumstance.
最后由 Only Zuul 编辑于; 2021 年 3 月 11 日 下午 10:49
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[ER] Raven  [开发者] 2021 年 3 月 11 日 下午 11:37 
Hi Fluffeh, I run some tests and it seems to work properly. You can activate the verbose log with the + key to see the exact sneak attack rolls.

That said, you need to have concealment to land a sneak attack.
Undercover doesn't give concealment when you play it (unless you play its discard ability instead). neither does the associate's/crime lord ring.
Only Zuul 2021 年 3 月 12 日 下午 3:29 
Oh yea, that part was too far up in the log. But I had concealment from item proc on turn start, and had not broken or spent it. It would have fit well with the sneak attack roll not showing in the log though. I'll see if I can replicate it. Still have a save file from some point during the run.

Is there a minimum concealment requirement for sneak attack to proc, that I have missed? Or some set of conditions in the open world game modes that somehow renders concealment non-functional despite being displayed? It happened in my second run ever in open world game modes, so there's every chance that I overlooked something that would be obvious to an experienced player.
最后由 Only Zuul 编辑于; 2021 年 3 月 12 日 下午 3:31
[ER] Raven  [开发者] 2021 年 3 月 12 日 下午 9:29 
Daytime reduces the concealment you can get from an action by 5%. So if the item gives 5 concealment then daytime can indeed render it useless.

But then concealment will not display under your portrait. If you do have concealment then it's always displayed under your portrait. That's the place to look for it.

The verbose log will be helpful to see if any roll modifiers apply, so it will clear out doubts ie. if the roll is low or if sneak attack doesn't trigger.

In this case damage roll should have been at least 6, so you didn't land Sneak Attack for sure. However I still can't replicate any problem with the perk, so it could be explained logically by not having Concealment at the moment.

Otherwise it might be something more serious. Let me know how it goes, to know if I need to keep looking or not ;)
最后由 [ER] Raven 编辑于; 2021 年 3 月 12 日 下午 9:38
Only Zuul 2021 年 3 月 13 日 下午 6:23 
Okay I sunk a solid two hours into it and I am 100% unable to replicate the problem. I feel completely certain that concealment was displayed before using the attack, but at this stage I have to entertain the idea that I may be wrong. If I'm not, which is obviously the version I'd like best, then the problem was caused by a set of circumstances that I can not come up with. Which means that it's not very likely that it'll happen often enough to justify the effort needed to track it down.

I might go back and test some more if I think of something I didn't try. I'm kinda miffed about not being able to replicate it. I'll update if I manage it, but if not then I guess I'll have to accept that it might have been user error.
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